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WAR PROPAGANDA by glogauer WAR PROPAGANDA by glogauer
Another little point of view on this awful illegal war in Iraq.

I am not anti-war or anti-anything...
I'm a positive person and I am just PRO-PEACE!

I don't like Saddam Hussein and his bloody dictatorial government.

If the U.S. government is a democratic one, why did it begin war in Iraq AGAINST THE WILL OF THE UNITED NATIONS AND IN SPITE OF ALL INTERNATIONAL LAWS?
This is a criminal act against human kind and democracy.

Violence is the last refuge of incompetence...

Comments welcome.

If you are interested to take a look at other political cartoons I made about the Iraq war, here are the links on my blog ACE CARTOON PILOT (in order of realization) :


And other cartoons that are worth the look :

May you have good laughs and a nice day!
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MisterAwesomeness Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
How was it an illegal war. Congress passed a declaration of war on the nation of the middle east. Therefore it is by definition, while costly, it is a legal war.
ChristoMan Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
You have to go to the UN to justify war. The U.S. did not. 
MisterAwesomeness Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
We are the exception to that rule and what do you think people did before the U.N.  Declarations of war. Plus the United states holds the most seats therefore can do whatever it wants. This war is neither illegal nor unconstitutional. These rash claims are made by leftists and their sympathizers to gain public favor and cause unrest to keep the country from advance to the greatness it can achieve. Please be smart and disregard any future childish claims that this war is unconstitutional, for they are false.
ChristoMan Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Oh I see. So the US is above the rest of the rules it set with the rest of the world? this is why 90% of people I know are incredibly bitter or simply anti US government. To sit in Australia and have our troops going to war for America and die is completly unessesary conflict.  The fact that you just specifically said you are the exception of that rule would fuel anger in anyone like me that reads this comment. 

The facts are there. The U.S. went to war in Iraq to destabilised the Middle East and allows the coprerations to start oil drilling in the country. The entire bush administration had huge connections to oil pipes with Turkey and they had been planning to build i through iraq since before the first gulf war. 

creating ethnic hostilities by making Shia death squads which led to the creation of the Islamic state. No war is legal. But the US loves to make their conflicts seem like some crusade for freedom. 

Maybe you should try and understand why people do what they do. And why conflicts like there start. One thing I notice with media in the US is it loves to play on terms like "pure evil" to keep the true reasons of comflict seceret. 
MisterAwesomeness Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Well to me, being an active duty officer of the United states Marine Corps, I see it as the rest of the world is too weak or in some cases, yours specifically, unmovable towards the goal of suppression through force of arms. There is no such thing as the term you people have dubbed "peace". You, who sit on your assess, arguing about something that doesn't even involve you. "Peace" as you called is only the short hiatus to prepare for the next battle. Whether you accept it or not makes no difference to me for humans will always fight both validated wars and your so called "illegal" wars with or without your consent. Truth be told your life doesn't really matter all that much does it? War has the magical ability to treat everyone with the same answer. I can ignore everything from skin color, to ethnicity and even social status, because within one instant that bullet passes through your skull, or that bomb lands on your house, or that shell pulverizes your homes, your sorry, sad, little life will be snuffed out without a thought.

So I'm now asking on a mature level, one that you have clearly shown that you have, will you simply sit and die like everyone else, or will you take up arms and defend yourself and die with defiance on your breath saying that you died with your brothers. 

Your kind of people honestly sickens me. Simply complaining about war and bitching in your computer chairs saying that " OHHHH! They're sending of my countrymen to die in some 'illegal' war!?! AHHH I must blog about this straight away."  Either man the Fuck up or Sit the Fuck down and Shut up. You can support the troops all you want but don't you dare disgrace them. If anyone's the disgrace it's you and everyone like you.

An answer to your question of "Why people do what they do?" 

Because of three distinct reasons:
1- Hate - the simple thing that drives our emotions to their peaks and allows us to speak against that which we dislike and take action
2- Lust for conflict - no matter how small or how deeply seeded it is in your mind, we all crave death and destruction in one way or another, ad if you say you don't then you aren't ready to express it yet.
3- Human Nature - If you didn't fail history in middle through High school you'd realize that with war comes humanity. The bigger the war the more the humanity. Whether it is humane or inhumane everything is humanity. 

Enjoy your comfortable life behind four walls a ceiling and floor with sustainable food, water and power wasting your time on the computer without being afraid of being shot at any moment by some man who hates you because you where a uniform you wear a uniform you are ordered to wear.
Please be appreciative of what war has brought you and cut the Anti- war crap. Comparatively Australia has done enough if you ask me. Get your assess in gear and maybe we can end the conflict you're bitching about sooner, huh? Just sleep on that if you will.

When you decide to come back with some other argument I shall be waiting with baited breath to assist in your reeducation.
ChristoMan Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Serving in the marine corps does not put you on top of any other person on this earth, and serving in any military branch does not mean you can flag around more understanding then myself. that fact that you say weak is very disappointing. So people that put human compassion and resolutions before conflict are weak? This involves the world mate. Every one of us. We are the problem and soloutiom for a better world, just as I can easily say "carrying a weapon around the globe to protect the interests of the US government" gives you very little insight to how the world works. The first thing you learn as a solider is to suppress compassion. After all if you had such a trait, you wouldn't be invading countries for oil. Well if it really didn't come down to skin colour or personal gain, you would not be playing chicken with Russia. 

For what? For what reason? one thing you seem to have in common with lots of jihadists is this "dying" for honor. You can live a full life without killing or fighting people and make a difference. 

What a one dimensional comment. I give respect to those who earn it. Just because you are part of the army dosen't warrant respect from me, and shouldn't warrant respect from anyone. And it's sad how you think I'm against you, when I want an end to these mindless conflicts. You no nothing about me yank, and I suggest you don't make such weak assumptions about the kind of person I am. This is why the majority of the world is turning against the U.S. You think you are somehow above the rest of us. disgrace? Well I better go join the marine corp, apparently that's the only way to become a hero and get respect over there you are aware theirs people are aren't marines that actually contribute solutions to this planet, in actual fact? I'm yet to hear of a marine that does more then just uses his title in an arrogant "I'm better then you" way.

true all of those things. But their are ways to solve it. I get angry like any human being, I used to think that fucking up somone that made me mad was the only way to handle problems. But this keeps us stuck in a never ending cycle of conflict. The second you break said conflict, not only does it make you a better person. But it makes them world a better one.

how dare you once again. Actually you know what? The supposed-U.S-marine-who-things-he-is-above-me-because-he-kills-and-was-born-in-america taking jabs at me even though he knows nothing about me is anything but surprising, and thats the only way you will ever feel like your opinions are valid, by assuming I'm nothing more then an Internet troll or hater, and trying to belittle me because I'm not part of the BIG BAD HEROIC army that maintains peace. Sort yourself out yank. And read between the lines rather then just charge in beyonet first to solve problems. 

The US made the rule of taking any declaration of war to the United nations. It broke it. Thus going by the rules it made, that war was illegal. 

you have taught me nothing I already don't know about your slowly dissolving system of thinking. chump. 
MisterAwesomeness Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Here I thought we were having an intelligent conversation about politics.
I wasn't saying I was better than anyone what I was actually trying to convey is that corpses can't speak. If you don't fight you'll end up a corpse, If you do fight then you live long enough to speak.

-We learn to suppress compassion because if we don't then we can't be soldiers and we'll end up as whinny little brats like yourself. We are also taught to suppress hate because they don't want us to kill without reason despite what the leftist media has told you. (Don't believe everything the TV tells you kids!)

-You have probably never had to experience war BECAUSE of soldiers who protect you.

-If you were invaded by a belligerent force or nation, who do you like will come to save you

-Also before you publish a rant it is best to read through it carefully to find grammar errors. (There are over one hundred that I counted. See If you can find them all kids!)

-People that put human compassion and and resolutions before conflict are weak? 
Answer: Yes, because they lack the strength to take a life, and yes it requires a great deal to take another life.

Answer: Yes, you are abandoning your allies. Simple as that.

-Well I better go join the marine corp, apparently that's the only way to become a hero and get respect over there you are aware theirs (<----- Wrong use of there it would be there are) people are aren't marines that actually contribute solutions to this planet, in actual fact (<----- All facts are actual, only opinions can be disproven) ? 
Answer: Your country doesn't have a Marine Corps, however I would suggest joining some other branch of the Australian Defense Force. There are many National Heroes that have come out of there. Yes the Armed forces provided stability where the sovereign nation can not.

-Those who use their title as a gain are trying to get women ( I do it all the time- Ladies love a uniformed man) so I'll agree with you there that we can be arrogant. But then again so are other people so I don't see you point.

-Actually you know what?
Answer: Know what you haven't followed up with any continuity thus far and are seemingly blurting out the regular leftist drivel that I loath to hear.

- how dare you once again. Actually you know what? The supposed-U.S-marine-who-things-he-is-above-me-because-he-kills-and-was-born-in-america taking jabs at me even though he knows nothing about me is anything but surprising, and thats the only way you will ever feel like your opinions are valid, by assuming I'm nothing more then an Internet troll or hater, and trying to belittle me because I'm not part of the BIG BAD HEROIC army that maintains peace. Sort yourself out yank. And read between the lines rather then just charge in beyonet first to solve problems. 
Answer: This is all your assumptions and only half right, Please return with valid arguments. This is again nothing but the drivel I mentioned earlier. 

-I give respect to those who earn it. Just because you are part of the army dosen't warrant respect from me, and shouldn't warrant respect from anyone. And it's sad how you think I'm against you, when I want an end to these mindless conflicts.
Answer: Not all conflicts are mindless, some are against evil. Not just propaganda saying things are evil, but true evil. I have seen neighbors hack each other to death because of different religion. You know where? India. 

But their are ways to solve it. I get angry like any human being, I used to think that fucking up somone that made me mad was the only way to handle problems. But this keeps us stuck in a never ending cycle of conflict. The second you break said conflict, not only does it make you a better person. But it makes them world a better one.
Answer: I find your Idealism amusing. The fact that you think human beings can just hold hands and make up after war. Peace time fuels hatred especially from the losing side. It fuels revenge. Break one start another.

The US made the rule of taking any declaration of war to the United nations. It broke it. Thus going by the rules it made, that war was illegal.
Answer:The international legal rules governing the use of force take as their starting point Article 2(4) of the U.N. Charter, which prohibits any nation from using force against another. The charter allows for only two exceptions to this rule: when force is required in self-defense or when the Security Council authorizes the use of force to protect international peace and security unless of a mutual decision by a majority of its members to attack, leading to a bypass of International law making the conflict legal until resolved by the Security Council.

They still remain silent.

If it is so bad and illegal why don't you try to stop it? No one seems to care about if it is or isn't just that it's there.  It is Human nature to fight. You can't change instinct. 

I enjoy these arguments for they are amusing. Please continue, however please be more mature this time. It ruins the mood of the argument when you act like a child. Hope to hear from you soon my friend and please feel free to critique my grammar as I have done yours.
ChristoMan Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Intelligence? Theirs hardly any in talking to you. You basically just refuse to look at my opinion and try to state thst I'm missing the point. You seem to think anything that dosen't agree with you is a threat. Your twisted morals will only isolate you from others. 

Oh good lord you are a walking contradiction mate. That fact that you have been taught, to suppress feelings like that basically means that you simply have no right to say a word about conflict. As you have been 'told' to hold it in for thehe purpose of killing.

you keep flashing this "people-like-mate-hate-veterans-and-don't-care-for-them" crap and it's really proving how little you know about the complications of said topic. I never asked them to go to war, I never asked them to stand up and kill people, and I'm certainly not anti veterans. And the fact I have to say this every time even when I make it clear i'm not against soliders proves that you are simply using an invalid argument to pull away from the entire point of this argument. Which is war cannot be justified and it's never used for good, only for personal gain. 

I shall spell how I want when I want ;)  
btw you also simply dismiss my argument as a rant. More proof how you keep making assumptions and refuse to even acknowledge any other alternative. Classic military thinking.

different kinds of strengh mate, if you judge a persons strengh by killing people, it shows how narrow minded you are. You must have been brainwashed pretty good into thinking that how problems are solved ;)

abadonkng my allies? Keep in mind the only reason the US gave a shit about us was when they found out we could be lost to communism. No such thing as allies in that aspect, all governments are paranoid about other goverments. I love my country mate. And I'm not abandoning it. I't already lost its innocence thanks to Geroge w bush forcing us into your war on terror, the U.S Govermonet has created this never ending war and never ending hysteria of foreigners coming to kill us. You use this for justification of war. 

I can agree. You don't need a uniform to be an arrogant jerk ;) I'm a film director and I can tell you with full honesty that theatre actors are some of the most arrogant people on this planet lol

left and right are equally fucked. While I'll admit I hate republicans more as they just don't admit that theirs problems in the world. (Plus like you they seem to make jabs at people personally, why exactly they do that is still a mystery) 

same me with your drivel mate. :P

evil? serious? You tell me not to use simplistic terms like peace and you go ahead and use evil? evil is a word we use when we try to make sense of the human condition, but we only use it when it dosen't conflict with our own ideals. Evil is a useless word unless you stick to fiction. If you want to look at pure evil? take a deep long look at your countries goverment. Take a look at globalisation, take a look at the big issues, the really big issues that are changing the world. Don't just look at things through words like good and evil. Or you will never be able to comprehend the day you find out you're wrong.

the fact you think that killing and war is the only way to solve problems is all the more amusing. We have tried war for thousands of years, nothing has changed, we haven't tried understanding or simply conveying a common understand we all share. (That's right, just bring down peace as everyone holding hands. You tell yourself it's hard and that cheesy so you stay in the job ;) ) the loosing side. Once you expand yourbeliefs you will see that the causes of the problems you talk of is war. 

god bless Murica ;) the vote for conflict in Iraq ended when China, Russia, and France voted no. Thus it ended the debate. Also remeber how the bush administration sold us garbage about nuclear weapons and the iminit danger iraq had. Which proved to be completly false. 

What at do you think people like me are trying to do!? we do more then just sit here and post online. But online and the Internet is the one true place where information can be shared uncensored. Every time an independent organisation puts up documents and reports of war crimes committed. It's either completly ignored by mainstream media, or the people charged are pardoned by the goverment. (David Cameron vetoed and pardoned the reports of tony blairs role in Iraq and the potential crimes committed. 

people that control information of the world use this argument too, "why don't you do something?" Why don't they? They have the power to actually prove these wrong. Yet they just block the information. Very suspisious. 

I care are about every conflict that's currently happening. But if you expect me to sit here and solve all of the worlds problems right here and now? That's just childish. 

I'm taking this argument quite well giving the personal jabs you take at me. Try not to sterotype people who see more to life them war as lazy trolls. 
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PyroAnubis Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Student General Artist
Hurray totalitarian freedom!
The-Ultras-Narrator Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Lol, I love cartoons with petroleum!
plzwork112234 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Look we haven't got any oil from them...
0Anesthetic4u Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
We may be a democracy but the world isn't. Also while we are a democracy it is because the people of this country agreed to be one within it, however the people of this country have not agreed to be part of a world democracy and therefore is not bound by what other countries want(AKA the UN). We had every right to do what we did because there is no such thing as not haveing the right. The world is a harsh and cruel place and every one has the right to kill what ever and whom ever they want or need to make their way in it. Now society has articail rules on it, but in practice they still have no controle over people's actions. Rights can never be taken away, they can only be supressed, and no one has the RIGHT to life. They do have the right to fight to live though.
ichigo240 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2011
thats so wrong its funny
importracer1992 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2011
so true kills me that my country pff not my country the idiotic goverments the problem THIS WHOLE WAR IS A LIE THERE WAS NO REASON TO GOT TO WAR
TheAdversarySucceeds Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2010  Student Writer
Well, the UN is just as corrupt and ineffective as any government, so . . .
B47 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2010
Lawl! You made a funny!
Shebshie Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2010
Some one needs to put those camel jockeys in there place. I just sorry were not fight them all out. I blame the Democrats.
EonOrteaShadowmaster Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2011  Student Writer
What, pray tell, would their "place" be?
Shebshie Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2011
The place where they learn not to fly airplanes into a bigger more developed country's buildings.
EonOrteaShadowmaster Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2011  Student Writer
Erm, flying an airplane into a building is wrong regardless of how big or developed the country in question is.

That aside, the overly large majority in that part of the world does not belong to the "murder thousands of unbelievers" group.
russiantea87 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2009   Writer
Despite my general distaste for present-day America, I do place some stock in political accuracy.

I'm sure you've heard of a quaint if altogether obscured state called Alaska, yes? Well, in Alaska, and most people neglect to mention this in all the middle eastern hysteria, there lies an oil reserve that on record is officially one of the largest in the world. Thus far, America has overlooked this substantial energy source__encouraged vehemently by Middle Eastern lobbyists NOT to utilize this natural asset to America, but to instead adhere to their international commitments I.E. bailing out the political cess pool that is Iraq.

America isn't fighting in Iraq because they personally "need" anything. They're doing because it's economically/politically advantageous to do it.
In short they're fighting there because somebody with a loud voice and deep pockets wants us there. Having said that, do I personally have any qualms about us preserving our invested interest over there? No. Speaking from a practical standpoint, every nation has to get in bed with someone they'd just as soon see choke on their own vomit. It's just the sad reality.
Shydrow Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2009
There are no laws or rules of war. Its all unofficial and the strongest makes the real rules and doesn't have to fallow them. Thats how its been done and always will be.
BenderRodriguez2009 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2009
The tears of freedom are the awful human acts to kill natives through humiliating debts from foreign enterprises than charge them the price of the abusive contract terms and damages produced by their installations
Mobiart Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009   Interface Designer
HAHAHAHA admittedly the war is pointless but its hardly like that!
1234567890Bravo Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2009
If this was a dictatorship goverment you would be shot for this art and i am guess the thousands of gassed kurds Were asking for it and the soccor team that had thier feet cut off deasearved that and the Pesrons who dissapered and were tortued Probably asked for it
Tank50us Featured By Owner May 5, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
all to true my friend, all to true. And lets not forget that there are people out there who are fighting for his right to make this, he should be ashamed of himself for this, but, it is his right, and as an American, I will not trample on that right.
ofiesh Featured By Owner May 4, 2009   Writer
lorddrake Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009
One word: Great.
SGTAlan-Barrows Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2008
So funny, yet at the same time so true. Nice touch with the guy trying to fight a BFG with a sling shot, as it makes it both funny and serious!

But seriously, nice work.
warmonger13 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2008
Question #1, Iran nukes Isreal, what do you do?

Question #2, China attacks US, what do you do?

Question #3, a cereal killer goes after you with a machete, what do you do?
rageofthem Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2008
well it's OK but there is a reason why we're over there and it's not for oil land or money it's because everything in our hemisphere and so on will (eventually) become our problem as shown in some of the terrorist attacks on the US our allies and our embacies(sp?) and that's why some countries call us the globo cop
Terrortheslayer Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2008
overkill don't you think?
jragin Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2008
your point of view's is your own
and i agree with what glogauer has to say
i also have respect for the soldiers brave enough to actually make that career choice
mad dog=if you want peace you must prepare for war, just don't start
bill bailey=in hinduism, they say the almighty know's all, or he might not know, that's great because it's just like saying well your guess is as good as ours, behave well and things will probably pan out fine
KatipunanGeneral Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2008
iz the guy with da sling a iraqi?
MummyMetaller Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2008
Nice one

*clicky* :+fav:
taodih Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2007
ok got to say.. i'm against that war but..
how manny people died under saddam's rule?.. just wondering how manny actuly?

just so you don't forget that ok? and saddam wasent that old..
*look at fidel castro he is like the number 1 longest ruler in the modern world..*

i'm still not ok with it it should have bin better organized or something like that

anyway don't forget that point
sakuramustDIE Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2007
well, at the time going to war seemed like a good idea.
Gwolf14 Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2007
This pic resonates with a country at war with itself internally and selling it's soul to China and anyone else with money.
Darkmatter001 Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2007  Student General Artist
If you ask me its a good thing we went to war in iraq !
For starters we were able to free an opressed people and are finishing the job now!
Here in the UK people ask why are we still in Iraq? I ask them why start a job you dont intend to finish?
When Iraq has a stable government and a self supplied milatary force we can leave but not till then.
Sure we out gunned them and our thecnology is far more advanced giving us the upper hand but thats war for you. During WWII Nazi Germany were the most advanced fighting force in the world. But this didnt stop us and we prevailed its not who has the biggest gun but who has the will to carry on. You only fail when you stop!
hoggmieser Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2007
As a soldier, I find your comments highly offensive, we've served over here building dozens if not hundreds of schools and hospitals, and your highly over estimating the death toll of civilians most of the time its us whos getting shot at then we shoot back not the other way around you ungrateful ignorant unpatriotic biggot.
WolvesInTheRain Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2009
shoot or be shot.
hoggmieser Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2009
I'm curious...where is the relevance of this statement? If we had fired at every person we saw, we would be no better than roaming death squads. Would you prefer that it be akin to Rowanda, with people riding from village to village raping and pillaging? That's certainly what one could construe from this statement.
WolvesInTheRain Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2009
No, thats not what I meant at all. I was refering to this part of your comment - "most of the time its us whos getting shot at then we shoot back", I was agreeing with you. What I should of said is that if your under effective enemy fire, you have to put down fire too, hence "shoot or be shot" Sorry I shouldn't have been so crude, I hope I havn't offended you.
hoggmieser Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2009
Not, in the least, I was simply trying to verify what you meant because I've gotten flak simply for having enlisted. I'm simply short-fused now-a-days after being accused of committing crimes against humanity and such like some many people appear to do.
WolvesInTheRain Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2009
I admit I was a bit shocked when I saw your first reply - but I understand what you mean.
Most of the time I think it is ignorance, but to be honest I don't know. My dads really against me joining the military, he thinks all I'll be doing is dropping bombs and killing innocent people. Maybe he just dosn't understand what I actually want to do. It's frustrating. You shouldn't accuse someone if you don't fully understand the situation.
Subbie-Overlord Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2007
You tell 'im. Nobody is grateful for the sacrifice people like you produce day after day.
hoggmieser Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2007
I find this really offensive as a soldier having served in Iraq, theres much less killing of innocent people then you think, theres been dozens if not hundreds of schools and hospitals build here, and we're working our best to protect these people you ungrateful ignorant piece of shit..
yeah dude, it doesnt seem like you actually opose the war in any of your comics. you simply state the obvious truth which is your army is bigger. so even though i disagree with that mave guy, he's right. this is more of a satire on technical fights.
Mthan Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2007
Thanks for it.
witchdoctor-1 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
One problem with this cartoon. Iraq has much less oil than people think. Just because it is in the Middle East doesn't mean that it has oil. That was the reason Saddam invaded Kuwait. No, Iraq is the most strategically perfect nation there. If you look at Iraq geographically, whomever has a presence there can not only assist Israel very easily in a time of crisis, they can strike at Syria and Iran, which border Iraq. Plus, it had a weak, unsupported gov't so it was easiest to topple. We went into Iraq thinking more of using it as a place to stage a war against Iran.
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